Appall of Fame?

The Rock and Roll hall of Fame induction was only a few weeks ago.

Guns and Roses got in without Axl Rose showing up, big surprise..Along with The Red Hot Chili Peppers,Donovan, The Small Faces and The Beastie Boys among some others.

 Now Don’t get this wrong, The Rock and roll hall of fame is fine.

Elvis in, good.

Beatles in, very good,

Chuck berry, The Stones, The Who, Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, Clapton, and many other deserving artists, all good!

But they are starting to induct people that…well, I’m not saying that they don’t deserve it…but when you look at some of the artist who are NOT in the Hall of Fame it makes you scratch your head. 

I guess they reached the point where the blatantly obvious choices are in, now it’s tough.

So, Who decides who makes it and who doesn’t?  What is the procedure?

They say there is an actual committee that is composed of what is described as “rock and roll experts. Some of these experts are music executives, music journalists, historians and even a couple of musicians. This committee is given a packet a few weeks ahead of actual voting and that packet includes names of rock and rollers eligible for nomination, artists that have been nominated in the past but have not been inducted.  An artist has to have released their first record 25 years ago.

But rumor has it is really only up to long time Rolling Stone editor Jann Wenner. 

He was a co-founder of the Rock and roll hall of Fame foundation in 1983, and most say it is completely up to his whims.  Who he likes, who he doesn’t like.  He has apparently even trumped a decision by “the panel” when, in 2007 The Dave Clark Five  should have been the fifth inductee, as they had more votes than inductee Grandmaster Flash.  Wenner  used a technicality about the day votes were due in, because he felt the Hall couldn’t go another year without a rap act.  “Rap” act?  “Rock and Roll” hall of fame?

 If it is indeed Wenner’s baby, that’s fine.  Jann Wenner himself has done a lot for rock and roll.  But maybe they should rename it “Jann Wenner’s Friends Hall Of Fame”.  

And I understand.  The Black Jacket Symphony has to pick classic albums to perform.  We always want to pick the ones that people want to experience, but people have their opinions and we can’t always please everybody.  

But this is different.  This is supposed to be a “hall of fame”.   And some of the oversights and snubs are….almost ridiculous.

 Here are a few;


 Jann Wenner’s distaste for these progressive overlords has been well-documented.   But it’s not just Rush, he apparently dislikes ALL prog rock.  Jethro Tull, Yes, ELO, Emerson Lake and Palmer, King Crimson, and even Devo…all not in the hall of fame.


-KISS: A fundamentally silly band, to be sure, but silliness has always been a massive part of rock.  Where would Lady Ga-Ga be without them?


-Chicago:  Obviously it shouldn’t be the amounts of records sold that get you into the Hall of Fame, but damn.  Chicago?


-Steve Miller:  He is in the Woodrow Wilson High School hall of fame though.  No kidding.


-Heart:  Blondie is in.  Ann and Nancy Wilson…are not.


-The Moody Blues.  Hugely influential.  This should be one of the biggest surprises on the list


-The Doobie Brothers.  Could they just induct the pre-Michael McDonald Doobies?  Is that the problem?


-The Monkees.  Okay, they will never get in.  But why?


-The Cars.  Ric Ocasek is good enough for a supermodel but not the Hall of Fame?  Looking like him and getting a supermodel should AUTOMATICALLY get him in!  That IS rock and roll.


-Cheap Trick.  They should be in.  Period. 


-Steppenwolf.  They should be in just for all the bar bands out there playing “Born to be Wild” and “Magic Carpet Ride”.


-Journey.  They are TODAY one of the most downloaded bands out there. I mean…as I write this.  I mean…you know what I mean.


-Todd Rundgren.  Maybe he’s too multifaceted.  Performer, producer, all around wizard and true star.  He ABSOLUTELY should be in.


-Dire Straits.  Patty Smith and her armpit hair are both in the hall.  Not Dire Straits.


-Thin Lizzy.  Come on!


-Hall and Oats.  Maybe the pumping out of too many ‘Private eye’ era hits hurts them, but they originally brought the “Philly” sound to the masses.  Maybe if they just let Hall in?  Hall in the Hall?


-Bad Company.  One of rocks greatest vocalist, Paul Rogers is not in the hall of fame.  Really?


-Stevie Ray Vaughan.  Wenner’s magazine voted him the 7th greatest guitar player of all time.  Apparently not good enough to be in the hall of fame. 


-Brian Epstein.  In the non-performer category.  Like, he didn’t have anything to do with rock and roll?


Have any glaring omissions to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame you would like to add?  Comments about this list or who IS in?

Jann Wenner


6 responses

  1. KISS isn’t in there? You’ve got to be kidding! I had no idea. And Steppenwolf? Didn’t the phrase “heavy metal” actually come from a line in a Steppenwolf song? How do you get more influential than that for Pete’s sake? I knew there were some folks left out who shouldn’t have been but wow!
    You said how they pick (supposedly) among the people who have been nominated. Who does the nominating?

    May 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm

  2. didn’t click the little notify thing–sorry for the extra post!

    May 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm

  3. Tres

    Even worse than some that are left out are some that are in there — like Madonna, etc. Other than trailblazers, forefathers or innovators (like Hank Williams or Les Paul) they should have a solid rock and roll connection. Not pop, not disco, not rap. I could live with the snubs of some bands if the hall was really going to be exclusively for rock royalty. But Beastie Boys? Grandmaster Flash? Why not Lawrence Welk? I grew disenchanted years ago when they started to become the pop music hall fo fame. Still wanna go there though.

    May 3, 2012 at 10:32 pm

  4. Benjamin Hancox

    I agree about Rush, but I love the fact that when asked, they said “Our fans kind of take it personally, but really, we don’t care.” Cheap Trick? You are so right. They should have been in LONG before GnR, who, let’s face it, got in on the strength of one good album.

    May 4, 2012 at 12:27 am

  5. Ummm… Boston??? no Kansas??? Where is Ted Nugent?? SMH…can’t believe these bands aren’t in!!! I am in total agreement with all those you listed above… it IS appalling that groups like Rush, Heart, Kiss, Cheap Trick and all the others have been omitted!

    May 4, 2012 at 12:34 am

  6. borisgv

    I couldn’t believe Gun N Roses got in at all. What did they have, two albums spanning four years??

    And to think Heart, who according to their wiki has had Top 10 albums in four different DECADES starting in 1976 and the latest being 2010, isn’t in yet?

    The HOF has been losing credibility steadily over the last few years, but this year might be the most blatant example yet. Whats next, inducting Britney Spears?

    May 8, 2012 at 2:58 am

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